Any French guys here?

"Ron Calls on his years of experience....and freezes at the controls" (internerdstuff) 11/15/2013 at 21:08 • Filed to: None

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My parents have some french backpackers staying at the moment.They're cool to talk to and we got to talking about cars (as you do) .One of the things they said surprised me. They say japanese cars tend to be more expensive than the local cars -peugeots,etc.The specific example he gave were Subaru which cost quite a lot

Any comments from oppo members in france,or related interesting stuff?

NYSS > Ron Calls on his years of experience....and freezes at the controls 11/15/2013 at 21:11

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ill just leave this here...

scoob > Ron Calls on his years of experience....and freezes at the controls 11/15/2013 at 21:26

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When I went to Paris, nearly every car I saw was A) diesel and/or B) European. The supercars, sports cars, economy cars, commercial vehicles, etc. were all European, mostly Peugeots, Renaults and Citroens.

I thought it was more of a "Fuck yeah, Europe" kind of thing but apparently not.

desertdog5051 > Ron Calls on his years of experience....and freezes at the controls 11/15/2013 at 21:31

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nippon > scoob 11/15/2013 at 22:24

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Sadly, it isn't. I'm from Europe and people usually drive VW diesels or any other french compact car.
It's cheaper than anything else we can get, even in the used car market.
Example: Civic EK, 1.4is, with some optionals, usually crappy condition, in my country will cost you at around 1200-1600€.
For that price you can get a loaded, few years younger Peugeot 106, or Saxo, Renault Clio and such.

German cars, especially VW is praised a lot around here(for no reason) so they dont deappreciate much. So you get Golfs mk2 and mk3 for a price of a 10 year younger more equipped car.

Italian cars, lets say Fiat Bravo, 1999, loaded, okay condition at around 1200€ or less.
Hell, if you try and search you can get a late model(redesign) Alfa 156 with a 2.4 diesel and nice extras for under 6k€.
Anything italian and over 6 years old is practically given away.

stuttgartobsessed > desertdog5051 11/16/2013 at 02:57

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C'est du spam ou qoui? Et il faut que je le dis: <> C'est tout.

duurtlang > Ron Calls on his years of experience....and freezes at the controls 11/16/2013 at 04:18

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I'm not French but I am European. Subaru is quite expensive here, as is Honda. More expensive then their European counterparts. VW, German VW not Mexican VW, tends to be as expensive or cheaper than Subaru and Honda. As a result, and their lineup that isn't in line with market demands, Honda and Subaru have rendered themselves unicorns. Toyota however isn't more expensive, they're priced similarly as their European competitors. Their lineup is more in line with the market as well, hence the relatively large number of Toyotas on our road. But unlike the US they don't top the charts as much as their cars are widely regarded as reliable but poor in most other things, like style, interior or fun-to-drive.

Here's a chart of the top 30 best sold brands in the Netherlands in 2012. Notice that they're all foreign brands from a Dutch point of view and that there are no import tariffs/taxes that don't apply to all brands.

KirkyV > Ron Calls on his years of experience....and freezes at the controls 11/16/2013 at 05:16

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The market here in the UK works out similarly to, though not exactly the same as, what duurtlang describes in the Netherlands. Toyotas have never been nearly so ubiquitous as I get the impression they are in the US, and most other Japanese brands are relatively - though still not particularly - rare. Nissan do quite well, largely thanks to the Qashqai, Micra and - weirdly - the Juke. I believe this chart is up to date:

Our best-selling car is, and has been for a while, the Ford Fiesta:

KirkyV > KirkyV 11/16/2013 at 05:35

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(I tried to EDIT this in, but got caught out by the countdown.)

Japanese brands have just never made quite as much economic sense over here, and while the reputation for reliability is certainly there, they've never been perceived as all that 'good-value', at least as compared to (European)Ford, and the French marques. When it comes to luxury, executive cars, the Germans absolutely dominate. And VW are pretty much the last word in slightly up-market 'ordinary' cars. None of the Japanese luxury brands even exist here. As for Vauxhall? I've honestly got no idea. Most - both ordinary and car-inclined - people I've talked to think they're a load of crap, and yet they still continue to sell ridiculously well. I've no idea who's buying them. Fleets, I suppose.

Our best-selling car is, and has been for a while, the Ford Fiesta:

desertdog5051 > stuttgartobsessed 11/16/2013 at 09:25

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Ya got me on that. I just pulled up a French language site and copied some text. No idea what is says.

stuttgartobsessed > desertdog5051 11/16/2013 at 13:08

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Haha. I have to thank you because I finally got to use my french degree! Baically it says that they have redesigned their website or something and if you cant find something don't hesitate to contact them!